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Use sound history to critique, rethink, or rebuild faith. A safe haven for ex-evangelicals or anyone spiritually restless.
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Sep 12, 2023
Sep 12, 2023
1hr 2 min
Thomas Jay Oord, scholar, theologian, and professor at Northwind Seminary, joins Michael to talk about his new book, The Death of Omnipotence and the Birth of Amipotence. They discuss whether God is all powerful or not and what is a better, more "biblical", and philosophically logical way of looking at divine power. Amipotence is the uncontrolling love of God. It's a beautiful notion that fits scripture, human experience, and logic better than the traditional view. Also, we find out how Tom had to sit through two heresy trials!
Grab Tom's books here: https://thomasjayoord.com/
Grab Michael's book (that Tom actually endorsed!), Breaking Bad Faith at Amazon.com.

Sep 3, 2023
Sep 3, 2023
1hr 3 min
Special guest Jim Palmer joins us on The Spiritual Brewpub. Jim is a former mega-church pastor, a master of divinity graduate, a humanist chaplain, a certified spiritual director, and the founder of the Center for Non-Religious Spirituality. Jim and Michael talk about Jim's deconstruction and rebuilding, the evangelical experience, the needs Jim saw that led him to found the Center for Non-Religious Spirituality, and some of the content that he provides to help people coming out of toxic faith.
To learn more about Jim, visit: https://nonreligiousspirituality.com/
See a video version of this podcast.
See Michael's book that Jim referred to at the end.
Learn more at The Spiritual Brewpub

Aug 20, 2023
Aug 20, 2023
1hr 5 min
Laci joins Michael in a fascinating conversation about her work as a Certified Trauma Recovery Coach (CTRC) focusing on helping people overcome religious trauma. Learn her story how she got caught up in an evangelical cult ministry, started deconstructing, and finally caught a vision to help people recover from the same trauma she went through. Don't miss this one! Laci is awesome!
To learn more about Laci's coaching and recovery services, visit: https://lacibean.com/
To learn more about Michael's Religious Deconstruction Workshop that teaches attendees historical and biblical facts that supports them thru their faith shift, visit: https://www.spiritualbrewpub.com/spiritual-freedom-deconstruction-workshops
Find Michael's new book, Breaking Bad Faith here: https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Bad-Faith-Exposing-Violence-ebook/dp/B0C9L21ZXD/
Join the Deconstructing Evangelicalism Support Community: https://www.meetup.com/deconstructing-evangelicalism-support-group/

Aug 14, 2023
Aug 14, 2023
1hr 5 min
Michael and Karen have a conversation about her story described in her new book, "Too Much and Not Enough: Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud." Karen shares with a refreshingly brutal honesty about her experiences growing up under the influence of toxic theological systems that left her doubting her sanity, her identity, and her voice. Like many men and women who have been hurt by the Church they loved, or betrayed by the pastors they trusted, Karen’s story is filled with disappointment and grief. BUT, as she writes from her heart and makes room for healing, she discovers a deeper hope, and a surprising amount of grace waiting for her—and all of us—on the other side.
To learn more and grab Karen's book, visit: https://www.karenruthshock.com/
Michael's new book: https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Bad-Faith-Exposing-Violence-ebook/dp/B0C9L21ZXD/
Learn the facts and how to rebuild faith at the Religious Deconstruction Workshop: https://www.spiritualbrewpub.com/spiritual-freedom-deconstruction-workshops
Join the Deconstructing Evangelicalism Support Community: https://www.meetup.com/deconstructing-evangelicalism-support-group/

Jul 12, 2023
Jul 12, 2023
1hr 4 min
Author, poet, spoken word artist, and former pastor of The Restoration Center and the The Rock Worship Center, both in South Carolina, Desimber Rose joins Michael to talk about toxic church culture. It’s time to expose the dark underbelly of institutional church and Desimber is equipped to do it. She’s also your guide to healing from the spiritual wounds of church hurt. Michael and Desimber talk about her experiences and her book, The Church Can Go to Hell: Overcoming the Brokenness, Bitterness, and Bondage of Church Hurt. She’s talking about the institutional church, folks, not all communities of followers of Jesus’ love ethic.
Find her book here: https://www.amazon.com/Church-Can-Hell-Overcoming-Brokenness-ebook/dp/B0B2ZB6VX9/
Find Michael’s book, Breaking Bad Faith, here: https://amzn.to/3NAajZv
Learn more about deconstructing conservative Christianity here: https://www.spiritualbrewpub.com/

Jun 7, 2023
Jun 7, 2023
1hr 2 min
Food to benefit your spiritual journey.
Heather Hamilton, author of Returning to Eden: A Field Guide for the Spiritual Journey, joins Michael to discuss her story deconstructing evangelicalism and rebuilding a surprisingly refreshing new paradigm. Heather has a knack for sharing spiritual and theological breakthroughs, including her mystical experience that snapped her out of a nervous breakdown. Learn new ways to view the Bible based on literary and historical facts, a positive spin on myths, and how to get out of the False Self trap and find your True Self.
To learn more, visit www.returningtoeden.com
To learn more about Michael's journey, visit www.spiritualbrewpub.com
To see a video version of this conversation, visit https://www.youtube.com/@michaelcamp2134
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May 3, 2023
May 3, 2023
1hr 1 min
Mason Mennenga joins Michael to discuss his journey surviving Veggie Tales (an evangelical children's animation franchise), an evangelical mega church and its theology, and how he came to question it all and discover a liberating and more historically-honest faith.
As a podcaster, YouTuber, and aspiring theologian with an MDiv, Mason has some really valuable, simple and profound content that helps people deconstruct toxic theology and rebuild a healthy faith or new theory of life.
To see or listen to his material, visit: masonmennenga.com
To learn more about Michael's journey, visit: spiritualbrewpub.com
For more in-depth help deconstructing and rebuilding faith, see the Religious Deconstruction Workshop.
See more episodes here: https://spiritualbrewpub.podbean.com/

Apr 28, 2023
Apr 28, 2023
57 min
Angela Herrington joins Michael to discuss her work as a Faith Deconstruction Coach, workshop presenter, and author of a forthcoming book, "Kicking Toxic Religion to the Curb: Deconstruct Your Faith Without Losing Yourself." Hear about Angela's journey and the abundant content she has developed helping people deconstruct conservative Christianity and evangelicalism. Also, the many examples that both Angela and Michael bring up of harmful beliefs and practices.
Do you find yourself asking, "If Jesus is love, why do so many Christians hurt so many people?" You'll learn how to uncover the answer to that question, how to overcome religious trauma that you may have experienced, and how to rebuild a healthy faith that brings peace.
To learn more about Angela and her workshops, visit: https://angelajherrington.com/
To learn more about Michael's content and workshop that includes historical facts that can set people free, visit: https://www.spiritualbrewpub.com/
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Apr 7, 2023
Apr 7, 2023
1hr 3 min
Brad Jersak joins Michael to discuss his latest book, After the Embers: Faith After the Great Deconstruction. Their conversation includes Brad's deconstruction journey, both his support and critique of today's mass deconstruction, and examples of historical deconstructionists like Voltaire, Kierkegaard, and Dostoevsky. He also shares how Simone Weil's take on the problem of evil "saved my life" as well as signposts and guides that help people find authentic faith after deconstruction. This is a critical discussion on where popular religious deconstruction is going today and how to navigate it.
Learn more about Brad and the book at bradjersak.com.
To get help with deconstruction, see Michael's Religious Deconstruction Workshop
Find video version of this interview at Brad Jersak Videocast
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Mar 29, 2023
Mar 29, 2023
1hr 3 min
Biblical scholar Jennifer Grace Bird joins Michael in a fascinating conversation about the importance of knowing original meaning and thinking for oneself when it comes to the Bible. Jennifer shares her insights found in her book "Permission Granted: Take the Bible into Your Own Hands" and her forthcoming book, "Marriage in the Bible: What Do the Texts Say?" Folks, you have permission to examine the Bible with an open mind to both critique it and decide for yourself what's inspirational. Learn why it's more respectful to the Bible to approach it this way and some fascinating examples of why the misogynist attitude toward women in the NT is not reflected in the original texts.
Go to YouTube for a Videocast of this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lya4sdGnymA
Find more content and videos of Jennifer's work here: https://www.jennifergracebird.com To learn more about Michael and his journey and experience coming out of conservative Christianity, visit: https://www.spiritualbrewpub.com/
